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An interview with an Educational
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1.Q:What is BAMS?
A:Bachelor in Ayurvedic Medicine and Surgery
2.Q:What is the duration of the course?
A: It is 5 ½ years course. (4 ½ year course and
1-year internship) But practically it takes six years to complete due to
various reasons in various states.
Q: To whom Ayurveda study is advisable?
A: In present situation, Ayurveda study is advisable
only for those who studied MBBS. That also, not this BAMS course fully, but
useful portions alone of this course. Unfortunately genuine Ayurveda is missing
in India.
Q: Is BAMS course advisable to a candidate who
passed medical entrance examination in India?
A: Firstly you please ask all your questions, then after
my answering yourself can decide it according to your circumstances, aim and
standard of living
.Q: What is the scope of BAMS degree?
A: That depends upon you. For knowing the past
medical heritage it is good to study. For job placement, chances are very less.
Almost nil, throughout India. Private practice scope is very very poor.
Q: What about the job opportunity after BAMS in
Government and private sector?
A: Condition of job opportunity is very pathetic. In
all the states of India, there are only few vacancies in state government
sector. That is always filled. In central government sector also vacancies are
very less. Not even ten numbers of new vacancies are arising throughout India
in a year in government sector either in state or central. But now, National
Rural Health Mission (NRHM) is trying to create few job opportunities, but very
limited. In almost all the states majority of BAMS graduates are maintaining
modern medicine clinics for their livelihood in India with little exception. In
Karnataka there was a modern medicine short term (1 ½ year) BAMS course after
Ayurveda graduation. . Those graduates are also doing modern medicine practice.
Now, BAMS graduates are appointed in modern medicine clinics in so many states,
in emergencies and also due to lack of modern medicine graduates who demands
more salary. It is understood that the condition in Kerala is very worse than
any other states; even though Ayurveda is very popular there. In Kerala, those
who have Ayurveda clinic or hospital it
is run by themselves .They produce their own medicine with their own license
.Hence no vacancies are arising, since
there is no expansion of specialties in this field similar to modern
medicine. So there is no job opportunity in private sector also in India. What
you see in the name of Ayurveda in tourism massage parlor and systematic Ayurvedic
treatment conducting by a qualified doctor is entirely different. So chances of getting a job for a BAMS
graduate anywhere in India is 99% nil. Other wise, after BAMS graduation, one
has to develop his own institution. That involves so many factors, out of it
the first one is, Indian System of Medicine (Ayurveda) is not a need of the
hour for the public in the busy life. This system exists in India only
because of some fanatic people who make it to exist, then only they can exist
with this, in government or private sector. BAMS degree is a product, have
no market demand. Production, Product and demand of product have no mutual
relation. The impact about present Ayurveda is due to the effect of
advertisement in Medias about confusing Ayurvedic products. Now a day’s due to
unemployment, Ayurvedic graduates thinks to write any other tests to get any
job considering BAMS as a graduation. But the bad luck is that by the time of
six years of BAMS study, the majority of candidates loose the general knowledge
(with little exception), which is inevitable to pass a test where graduation is
essential. In some states BAMS candidates are not even allowed to write such
examinations. By considering all facts, job wise there is no scope after BAMS
at present time. No idea about future. May change…..these comments are only on
the basis of present situation. In short….
After B Tech –with computer knowledge a candidate
can survive and start earning immediately after course
After MBBS- No chance of unemployment
But after BAMS-
??????????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
4. Q:Now what
is the general trend?
A: Usually parents and children aim MBBS course and
the students who didn’t get MBBS admission, join to BAMS course with a
desperate mind. (In the mind of parents as well as student). By the time when
they realize all factors, about BAMS studies, admissions to various other courses
will be closed. Because of no other means they are forced to complete BAMS
course without knowing the future. So in between the course some of the
students again try for entrance exam and may quit the BAMS course. The desperateness
in their mind and the difficulties in the first year BAMS make them still more
pathetic and that even lead them to concentrate on extracurricular activities
during BAMS course.. That again makes them to fail in the subjects of 1st
BAMS examination which makes them to underestimate themselves, there by lose their
self confidence and subject interest.
5.Q:What do you mean by the difficulties in the 1st
BAMS study?
A:There are a lot of difficulties facing by the 1st
year BAMS students
6.Q:Can you describe the difficulties?
A:Yes,I can. Firstly I will shortlist it. Later I
will explain each of them
1. Unscientific,
badly structured and badly presented syllabus
2.
Unfamiliar Sanskrit language
3.
Unscientifically prepared textbooks or lack of Text books
4.
Inadequate teaching skill of teachers due to lack of training
5.Communalisam in the Classical
Sanskrit medical books
6.
Feeling of going to the past rather than dreaming bright tomorrow
7.
Phlosophical incompatibility
8.
Experiments Vs Beliefs
9.
Failurity in setting goals
10.
Out dated and useless study portions
11.
Lack of contentment/satisfaction in study
12.
Lack of infrastructure in institutions especially in private Ayurveda colleges
13. Lack of
cost effectiveness in terms of money, time and effort
14.
Unscientific examination pattern etc
15.
The step motherly treatment of central and state governments towards Ayurveda
creates inferiority complex in Ayurvedic professionals. Seeing the inferiority
complex in senior BAMS students and Ayurvedic professionals, fresh BAMS
students especially 1st year students are losing confidence and enthusiasm
(For reading the explanation of the above listed 15 items, click on
“Difficulties Explained” on the right-hand side.)
Q: If this is the situation, still why people are
giving huge amount as capitation fee and taking admission in BAMS in private
Ayurveda colleges
A: There are two types of parents. First type of parents, who have background for
establishing their child after BAMS, eg: Parents who are Ayurveda doctors/Ayurveda
teachers with clinics, OR parents who has business like resort/massage centers
where they need an Ayurveda doctor OR parents who have Ayurveda medicine
manufacturing units, where they need an Ayurveda doctor as their technical
person for drug license purpose and for continuing their drug business.
Second type of parents are those send their children to BAMS as a
professional course and make their child a “Doctor” without knowing the job
opportunity. They see only few established Ayurvedic practitioners, and
considering them as role model or they see the exploiting Ayurvedic product
advertisements and misconceive Ayurveda. Parents even take educational loans
and give BAMS education to children. But after the course, due to unemployment,
they feel difficulty in repayment of loan. Even though these are the
conditions, one or two young practitioners may come up here and there and
flourish. It depends upon their personality, background in respect of their
familial, social and financial set up etc. That cannot be a statistical
significance for scope evaluation.
Q: What about the foreigners (other than Indians) studying
Ayurveda?
A: That is good, but after studying Ayurveda, they
should know the differentiation between Ayurveda, Indian Ayurveda, American
Ayurveda, and Italian Ayurveda and so on according to their place. Something
good for one place, may not be good for another place. Content of Ayurveda should
differ according to geography, but Science is same everywhere.
Q:I think your son did BAMS course. Now what is he
doing?
A:You see, whatever I told is the feeling of a
father of an Ayurvedic graduate, not mere as a column writer. My son did his
CBSE and Plus two course in English medium. After that he had joined BAMS
course. He was good in English. Unexpected difficulty faced by him in Ayurveda
college was, the teaching in regional language, even though it is told in the
prospectus that the medium of course will be in Hindi or English. When I
enquired in other states also condition is the same ie; majority of the
teachers teach in their regional language. Thereby with six years of BAMS study
he had lost his command over English. Anyhow immediately after passing BAMS, he
wrote two times the MD (AY) entrance examination .Unfortunately his rank was
not high at first time. But second time his rank was good, but he didn’t get a
subject of his interest. So he left the idea of studying MD course. Then he
tried a lot to get a job in any Ayurvedic clinic or hospital. But failed. Then
he thought of starting his own private practice and started a good well
furnished clinic with Panchakarma facilities. Working class/office going people
were coming there for their immediate day today ailments. Since the Ayurvedic
medicine what he was using was not suddenly acting for their immediate relief,
gradually number of patients decreased and found there was a great financial
loss by eight months. So he closed the clinic .Since we are traditionally
garment business people, now he is doing our garment business in Surat, started
exporting garments, and now that business is very good. What he had studied in
BAMS course is presently helping him for his own health care, but not a mean
for earning. Since we had a garment business background, now he is earning
through that. Think about others.
When I enquired, this is the condition of Ayurveda
graduates in all states of India without any exception.
Another important thing
noted is, nobody is interested to make marriage proposal with a BAMS graduate
(both sex) in Jain, Sikh, Budhist, Christian, and Islam communities in our
state (little exception in Hindu community :Vaishnava tradition).That creates
big problem to parents for finding a partner for a BAMS graduate.
Q: What do the government authorities do for
improving the condition?
A: Very less, because majority of them are also the
product of the problems what I discussed earlier. They are the persons who lost
the juice of enthusiasm, vision etc during their Ayurvedic study period itself. Luckily they got a job. They are waiting
for their retirement. After passing BAMS, if a person didn’t get a government
job in India, his condition will be very worse….than my son. By realizing that
, Ayurvedic doctors are sending their own children to other courses. If you ask
to any modern Ayurvedic doctor,you can observe that he is dissatisfied in
himself and against the present implementation of Ayurveda system. His answer
will be “I am here because it is happened.”
Q:So…..,what is the solution for this?
A: Solution is very clear. The present BAMS
teaching and study are mainly based on ancient classical books
viz;Charaksamhita, Susrutsamhita, and Ashtangasangraha. If a person filter the content of these books in the light of old religion,
sociopolitical set up, caste system ,untouchability, priest dominance, philosophy
and social rituals etc the remaining usable knowledge in those books are
relatively less in comparing with present advancement of modern science.
Teaching these textbooks as a whole is really unjustifiable and intolerable to
a modern student who passed entrance exam. The modern science part added to
present BAMS subjects can be studied in a centre where that part is teaching
more efficiently. So stop this BAMS course
immediately. Take the relevant and useful portion of Traditional Indian
medical science and add it to the syllabus of MBBS course and teach it OR introduce
a short term post graduate diploma course for MBBS graduates, where the course
content should be presently useful portions of Indian System of Medicine. Convert
all present Ayurveda colleges into modern medicine medical colleges according
to the infrastructure. Then this Indian System of Medicine with technology will
spread around the world. Research will happen in that area. Then the living being
in this Universe will get a comprehensive health care. There by Ayurveda will
become the Science of Universal Healthcare. For achieving this, the present
supporters of Ayurveda should be dare enough to accept the change by realizing
the need of present society. Then the face of Ayurveda will be different.
Now I remind you my previous
words once again” Present Ayurveda system exists in India only because of some
fanatic people who make it to exist, then only they can exist with this, in
government or private sector. -Exploiting Indian Medical Heritage.
Now, you find your own
answer, whether this BAMS course is advisable to you. If you have selected BAMS
course for your study, then keep this interview for future reference, if not,
give this website address www: knowbams.blogspot.com to another person who is in course selection process or studying
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I want to join BAMS WAT SHALL I DO,, PRESENTLY IS THERE IS THERE ANY IMPROVEMENT IN BAMS COURSES..??
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DeleteI am joined BAMS course but there is improvement .... and now we are studying modern science also and when a person take MD in BAMS he Or she has so many Job opportunities in India and abroad . i cant told that BAMS is higher than MBBS but its is equal to it. all of us think that Our traditional medical fields are not good... in modern science medicins have side effects no buddy think about that, everyone just know it works very fast and give release from the disease... like that ayurveda has its own problem... no buddy think about its merits every buddy want to know the demerits of it...here mention that bams student lose his knowledge in English after his course . in the exams and studies we are using English language and in campus we spoke in English. After all when a person take BAMS With his own interest he can enjoy this profession and get good salary
ReplyDeletenice dr . i agree with you , i am also doing successfully in my place
Deletethnkz sir..... here AYURVEDIC ppls also joining wit d above said person n critisisng our system... being an ayurvedic dctr i feel bad sir... dese r nt fit fo our system... cz dey dnt even knw the real value n power of ayurveda....
DeleteBAMS is a very good corse. If someone try to explain negative things of that course it's very bad. You should remember ayurvedic medicine is the foundation of modern medicine.
DeleteBAMS is a very good corse. If someone try to explain negative things of that course it's very bad. You should remember ayurvedic medicine is the foundation of modern medicine.
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I completed my BAMS I AGREE ABOVE SAID STATEMENTS.. BUT I HAVE MANY FRIENDS OF BOTH MODERN AND AYURVEDA.THESE TWO FIELDS HAVE THERE OWN MERITS AND DEMERITS BUT COMBINATION OF THESE TWO WILL Work... If you thinking to earn lakhs together by doing Bams won't work... But surely you can earn in between 60k to 80k if you struggle for 1 to 2years... As soon Bams we will be blank and same those did MBBS ONLY DIFF IS CASE TAKING... nothing to worry if you did Bams if you want you can practice ayurveda or modern... Struggle for year or two you will come up... As I did Bams in 2011 March now working with pediatric hospital modern off course and earning 45k for day shift without any worry of tomorrow... Whatever you do.. Do with love and hardwork success will be yours
ReplyDeleteyour all comments are based only on your son's failure otherwise my jr.named sandeep saini in hisar,haryana set an example to all B.A.M.S. to do their pathy but this is mistake of that students who go through modern n only modern so please do't underastemate us we are too good even uncompairable to m.b.b.s coz they have limits n AYURVEDA HAS NO LIMITS your son's failure is ur failure
ReplyDeleteI agree that some improvements need to be done in the syllabus of Ayurvedic courses all over India, but the way you have put it in your answers is very wrong. I don't think you have any right to give your opinion until and unless you yourself study this ancient science and know it in all its depth. For the people who find this interview helpful and interesting, I would advise to seek advice from the experts of this ancient and effective science and rethink whether this interview is really helpful.
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DeleteRelly appreciate for the useful information share.for your information here is a link which will takes you to page of Indian Ayurveda education
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DeleteI agree with the author. I m post graduate in ayurveda medicine n presently teaching in a pvt college. Ayurveda graduate has to prove himself at every step.Doing BAMS is really bad option but only if compared to MBBS otherwise it is a good field though a bit frustrating..
ReplyDeleteAlmost all indigenous medicines are promoted well in respective areas.In the case of Ayurveda only GOVERMENT can create awareness among public about advantages of Ayurveda.Without doing this and permitting new self financing colleges...lifes of many youth get spoiled.....Ayurveda is great...But BAMS corse should urgently be stopped........ no doubt
ReplyDeleteI am an MBBS but I have Respect for Ayurveda. My personal opinion is that it is the responsibility of the Plan Makers to prepare a course - particularly the technical ones (whatever the subject might be) so that it has some Academic as well as Practical value. Along with making one young citizen learned it should provide an useful career at the same time. It is absolutely useless to maintain one course which has no practical or academic value. Ayurveda is a very rich subject but it is very painful that it is not honoured properly in our country and persons with genuine Ayurveda knowledge are just numbered !
ReplyDeleteNo words to say... Good analysis... but please do not circulate coz it’s not 100 % true, but has some facts. Otherwise it will rebound to the whole BAMS community; the current scope present will have a negative impact with this review, because out there is businessmen looking for reasons to reduce costs. Very sad to say this, but what to do, Government is considering this course as an opportunity to nurture themselves and their praising communities. Dedicated & hard working students are struggling when they pass out when compared to other professionals. Even if they can create opportunities, they will not, because we are not considered to be a group which will trouble them. The government looks for Vote banks and Financial Pockets, which we are not at PAR. In all other contries they will try to keep the indigenous values. But unfortunately in India, the most needed is failing, the Indian system of Medicines is not at all lifted up. Anyways I don’t think the blind will get enlightened with a blink.
ReplyDeleteAnd the saddest fact is People are buying this degree for good money which has not that much popularity in this fast world, when they find this out it will too late, so compelled to buy a PG for 15 to 20 lakhs, without studying the ROI. Because if 23 lakh is the total cost, if u consider that money to invest as Fixed Deposit, u will get an interest near to ur current market demand. If invested money for PG is from savings, a wrong decision. If taken loan for PG, the worst decision because total lose is the projection, but has a probability of 10-20% break even provided u go for clinical practice and have to excel. But then, that’s not the trend now. People are joining for college as tutor which is not worth for either of the two situation of investment.
If all PG Doctors would have done something to lift the science up by delivering best clinical services and thus popularizing Ayurveda as a primary medical care system for chronic ailments, things would have been better now. PG Doctors must be innovative and create an impact for the whole community to benefit the science with new findings and practices. We must start documenting. Work together, you know more. So find something new, that’s what research rather than simply doing seminars for the repeatedly sung song. “Prathyaksham hi Alpam Analpam Apratyaksham”
So my opinion is close all the self financing colleges, so that there might be a chance for the community to at least prove the theory " survival of the fittest". People who reached the skies are there, but not as easy as any other professional. It all depends on how u receive the science, how u understand and how u deliver. Now the world infers a wrong picture. Change might come, let’s not wait, but work hard.
- VRP KTR
Good one...
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ReplyDeleteIs post naa koi Naam, Naa koi Pataa...
Jaroor ye kisi MBBS doctor ki chaal hai...BAMS And Ayurved Ko Badanaam karane ki....
The facts about job opportunities are true. But ayurveda is definitely a very good science. I have practiced both allopathic and ayurveda. From my observation allopathy can offer only short term relief for symptoms. Its good for infections definitely. But people are developing antibiotic resistance nowadays. But ayurveda can offer relief for most diseases. So it will be good if Govt develop some course combining these two so that people will get immediate relief for their symptoms with modern medicine and complete cure with ayurveda.
ReplyDeleteAlso ayurveda as treatment itself is becoming popular in foreign countries nowadays especially among 60+ age group. They are ready to take even the unpalatable kasayas. If you google it, you can find many articles about it. So ayurveda is definitely becoming popular.
dear columist,
ReplyDeletefirst try to understand what is Ayrveda then discuss whether or not continue BAMS.
I am sorry for this column writer..... success in any branch solely depends upon one's own caliber..... blaming the science for that shows the foolishness of the person... I have seen IIT postgraduates working in commercial banks, modern PG doctors working in temporary posts for years together... why??? A serious introspection by column writer about his son is required.........
ReplyDeleteThis blog is written by a frustrated person he should have done something else than writing here.Actually he does not know the difference between a profession and business.There are so many people who lose lakhs of rupees in their business but they don,t write blogs anywhere or blame any other.Almost everyone is convinced here that MBBS degree holders are having good jobs in government and privet sector but we know the reality that they are also not willing to join government or private as they feel they are very underpaid.All of us have to understand that basically medical degrees in our country are useful mainly for joining profession than job. My modern medical degree holder friends are also very frustrated and try to blame their degrees
ReplyDeleteAs far as teaching methods and syllabus are concerned our country is far back in every educational branch so should we close our universities and send our children overseas? As Ayurveda is an ancient Indian science its format appear different to other branches. As far as modern drugs prescribing by BAMS is concerned it is because they are generally practicing in remote rural area where modern drugs is demanded by patients on the other hand I see many modern medical specialists prescribe Ayurvedic or homeopathic medicine if demanded by patient who should prescribe what is entirely different topic why to blame BAMS doctors only? BAMS course and Ayurveda are good only few advancement are expected and those are going on so forget about closing this course and etc
Its unfortunate to say that those who speak about ayurveda knows nothing about ayurveda....i think in present times nobody has the intellect to understand the nectar of ayurveda. none of them (with very little exceptions) know what actually ayurveda is and keep making bullshits like this...........
ReplyDeletei'm 100% agree with author, ayurveda is a science anyone can read, understand, propogate etc. but BAMS is unshaped curriculum tried to link past medical knowledge with current medical system, today BAMS graduate is going to serve this nation tomorrow but this old curriculum wont help for future the real condition is no one is ready to develop or improve ayurveda,but all are ready to argue about this always, the current technology is not applied in exploring ayurveda concepts. the basic real problem is no one knows how to improve our ancient medical knowledge.
ReplyDeletewhu told dat ayurveda is such a system of medicine whch cn undrstd by any1.... den rply me d actual meanin of the word AYURVEDA.... If u r nt a ayurvedic related persn den u cnt rply me in ua life without the help of intrnt... first u go n hav proper knwldge of AYURVEDA n den critisise it ... othrwise u cnt sir.....
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DeleteDon't spread these type of negative thoughts .. Ayurveda is unique , deep concept base science .. compare with allopathi very less side effect. just getting license is not enough for a good drive , you should applied in your practice then only u will able to taste the essence of Ayurveda , If your mind is in positive you can succeed in any science .. after reading your article really i felt sad .. you are waste one seat in your college .. first try and realize the effect of triphla churna in early morning and asta churnam after meals . simple combination but it will give miracle result in most gastro problems .. If you a negative person is your problem but don't make others mind negative towards ayurveda . it's a sin .. good bye
ReplyDeleteHi Dear BAMS is a license card to Drive an Ayurveda vehicle .
ReplyDeleteI am completely agreed with the bloger...b.a.m.s. is such a rubbish nd time wasting degree course which cant guve u a good job nd money...indian people dont hv enough time nd miney to come to ayu practioner...i m also a m.d. p.g. frm ayurveda.. at the age of 29 i m not settled yet..dont ever get admission to this fool proffession..no lecturer apportunity..no patients for ayurveda practise..wht we get is only frustration which build up more with age...so i advice u say NO TO B.A.M.S...we hv alternative ENGENEERING..C.A...C.S..U.PS.C...M.C.A..M.B.A.
ReplyDeletefeels ashame of you dctr.... u urslf blaming ua profesion... den hw othrs praise our system... bttr u remove VAIDYA aftr ua name... u r nt fit fo dat...... cz DAT WORD HAV A REAL MEANING.....
DeleteDOCTOR think yourself whether u deserve to write "Dr" in front of ur name.dont spread dis kind of negative stuffs. its awkward. first respect & love ur proffession, ayurveda is really worthwhile for one who take it in their soul. it will definitely give u back if u deserve it & love . i have experienced dat even if i am not o roaring practioner.dedication is must i got it because i love ayurveda
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Ayurvedic treatment can cure even the incurable diseases.Yes i agree with this statement...Thanks for the post.
ReplyDeleteMaking integration in medical science is good thought but u r saying that ayurveda is baseless science it is making me sad bcoz if it is baseless how come it stay for longer year think abt this
ReplyDeleteNo BAMS guys. It's rubbish. Do Arts but please no ayurveda. How many of u would take your child to ayurvedic doctor? These quaks don't even use stethoscope or I would say don't know to use it. These medications lead you to many other diseases. No ECG even. It's rubbish... Who would pay you BAMS doctors? Bad future... No food... U starve.
ReplyDeletemam u r absolutly wrong.... v ayurvedic dctrs had trated a lot of cases whtch rejected by allopathic dctrs... nevr evr undrestimate any system of medicines... its a kind request.... n if u hav doubht u1ce u cme 2 KERALA n feel the real power of AYURVEDA,,,, Whu told ayurvedic dctrs r QUAKS... N fo ua kind Info. check the history n find out whu use steth first... n 1 more thing a real physician doesnt need any instumental help for proper DX... Nly by pulse he wil find out d disease... its d symbol of a real dctr....
DeleteWat kind of docter does it make u ms.shalini ,i dnt even cal u docter coz u dnt deserve to entitled with dis tag......u dnt have respects for other pathy......hanging stetho in neck doesnt make u doctr and madam u r very small or immature to understand ayurved .....
DeleteI am nw an internee docter in BAMS
DeleteI saw many of the cases which will be cured by our system of medicines which u r failed with ur pathy and also sme of the doctors of MBBS ,they are wonder about our ayurvedic treatments which alreafy you are failed in that .
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ReplyDeleteI am i known patient of AVN (avascular necrosis),5 years back i was told to replace both my hip joints at the age of 26...
I took treatment from Dr Jamadagni, BAMS dr .....now i walk on my (natural) joints with no difficulty..
MBBS drs should accept that ayurveda works.....u only disagree because u want all the respect....but ayurved is the only science which can take u back..
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I say thanks to author because he give all information about Ayurveda scope and effects and also agree with him.
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I am an engineering student. Few of my friends have taken up this field. Its really pathetic the way it is for those who have taken this subject. It should have any oppurtunities for them. They do spent a lot of time studying, dont they.. So shouldnt it be paid off.?
ReplyDeleteBeing An Ayurvedic House Surgeon i feel so bad about dis post.... i joined fo BAMS wit fuly dedicated mind.... n i teling u i didnt lost anythng..... i feel proud to b an ayurvedic dctr... neightr i lost fluency of ma language nor i feel sad to join to dis field... m frm kerala.. in our hospital v hav patience frm both whole parts of India as well as outside India... western blve in this system of medicine then y cnt u ppl... y indians cnt realise the real treasure in their hand.... nt a single ayurvedic dctr frm KERALA wil say they lost their 5 n half yrs by studyng BAMS.... cz v al mean d value n v respect our profesion.... wil gve u smal example..... one of ma collegue was certified legaly blind at USA aftr lots of majour surgeory @ allopathic hospital.... & he studied @ blind school also... wile he cme bck 2 kerala he went fo ayurvedic treatment (spend a small amount for treatmnt) he gt 50?% his vision back n hence he joined BAMS n completed his degree at first attempt n nw doing house surgency.... c d majic of ayurveda.....
ReplyDeletehey..i hv given my 12th exams and looking for bams is it really a good option or not...n what about jobs and salary
DeleteHey with out any doubt u can join
DeleteIts a good optin for u, for jobs u dontwry about that thng once u tret the patints wit full effrt and the u will get full with ths system.and by through this u fame with our systm and by ths u will ern salary frm diffrent sides
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I am totally agree with the author.This article must be published in the brochure issued by government & private colleges every year.Syllabus of ayurveda must be revised.when I was in first year of my bams course I never felt that I am going to be a doctor.The article is really heart touching.
ReplyDeleteBuddy the thing which is imperfect needs to b revised or rectified and ya modern books are revised every year with new edition coz something is changed evrytime and our ayurvedic books is nerver comes with revised editon coz their is nothing to b corected or to b revised....
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I m 12 th student ..I got 170 marks in cet..my no is allotted for ba.m.s. govt..shall I take admission or..look for engineering..
ReplyDeleteFirst of all I have to say is that, the author of this article is indirectly trying to discourage and brainwash the newly passed entrance exam students about the idea of BAMS course and its demerits. He has written this view solely on the basis of his son's performance who experienced failure and hence is trying to judge the world only and only on his own intellect. Keep in mind that clap does' nt come from a single palm. You are trying to discourage those young students and for those who have BAMS as their best option start thinking that it is the end of world and prosperous life for them. IT IS LIKE DON'T DO ENGINEERING 'CAUSE UNEMPLOYABLE GRADUATES ARE PRODUCED BUT, HAVE YOU GONE IN DEPTH OF THAT SUBJECT.....NO!...You are just giving commands from the back of a camel, not actually surveying the surroundings...
ReplyDeleteFirst of all I have to say is that, the author of this article is indirectly trying to discourage and brainwash the newly passed entrance exam students about the idea of BAMS course and its demerits. He has written this view solely on the basis of his son's performance who experienced failure and hence is trying to judge the world only and only on his own intellect. Keep in mind that clap does' nt come from a single palm. You are trying to discourage those young students and for those who have BAMS as their best option start thinking that it is the end of world and prosperous life for them. IT IS LIKE DON'T DO ENGINEERING 'CAUSE UNEMPLOYABLE GRADUATES ARE PRODUCED BUT, HAVE YOU GONE IN DEPTH OF THAT SUBJECT.....NO!...You are just giving commands from the back of a camel, not actually surveying the surroundings...
ReplyDeleteI'm practicing both allopathy and Ayurveda since 10 years. I likeEstablished nursing home with medical shop and a lab. I have also appointed a MBBS duty doctor for legal purpose and to help me. Earning almost 60 lacks per annum. Planning a super specialty hospital with a Ayurveda Panchakarma wing with it. I like Ayurveda very much. If we have interest and interpretation skills and communication skills, Ayurveda will be good choice. It's a diamond hidden in the stone. It's your luck n talent, how you use it.
ReplyDeleteTuze pasand hai to g*** me dal ke le! Don't tell others! You are successful in cheating patients. Not all are!
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hello sir.. mysef Nishant. I want to know the scope of bams after its.completion. i am 3 year dropped medical student who was preparing for mbbs but unfortunately i am not selected. With half heartedly.. i want to do bams.. please tell me about its scope.
ReplyDeleteDon't do it! If you want to be a terrorist, do become, you will get more respect by that! Kutta bhi keemat nahi dega tuze! Sari jindagi sad jayegi. Better be a terrorist, or be a criminal. There is not much difference in ayurvedic doctor and criminal to be frank.
DeleteThanks for your ideas and it was very useful information of Ayurveda Courses
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DeleteThanks for sharing such a useful and informative information. I am also looking for Ayurveda Schools in Canada. Do you know any best college?
ReplyDeleteBAMS is SHIT.
ReplyDeleteNo scope at all.
Private sector pays 10,000-12000 which is below the rank of even lower stenographer.
Only idiots can go for BAMS.
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ReplyDeleteWho is this bullshit man? .. Do not know anything about ayurved.. He is saying his personal thinking that his son could not be on ayurved path.. He thinks as world would hear what he is use to say his personal think. YOU BULLSHIT MAN.. MY FATHER IS AN AYURVEDIC DOCTOR AND HE EARN GOOD AMOUNT OF MONEY.. SO NO NEED TO WORRY AND DONT UNDERSTIMATE OTHERS BY YOUR BULLSHIT FOOL WORDS.. I AM GOING TO TAKE ADMISSION IN BAMS. DO YOU UNDERSTAND? IF YOUR SON WANT TO EARN MONEY THEN COME IN MY FATHER CLINIC.. COME TO ASSAM ( greeny valley of northeast) SEE THE KNOWLEDGE AND SEE HOW AYURVEDIC DOCTORS CAN EARN GOOD MONEY ALSO
Oh man. I think you had been expelled from exam by getting caught from medical officer. IS IT ?
DeleteOR ARE YOU A FAKE DOCTOR ?
A GENUINE DOCTOR NEVER EVER DISRESPECT TO THEIR RESPECTED COURSE .
Hey ur underestimatng the ayurvedic system of tretment bcz u never know about the practises in ayurveda
ReplyDeleteI didnt oppse u ,bcz u tried ur best level like u turned our few of samhitas 1st page and last page then u didnt get any knowledge about the ayurveda bcz of ur impropr knowledg in sanskrits and ur improper faith..
So kindly i givn u a suggestion
That is first thing is u y go and take admission for BAMS and study properly and thn u cm and talk ....
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DeleteBAMS has a good scope. this article was written long ago that's why it does not provide any proper info and moreover it is a personal exprnce. m a student n have cleared 12th this year. if i do not get selected in mbbs i will for sure persue bams. now let me provide some proper info rgarding bams. ayurveda has gained popularity in recent time as the medicnes do not hav any side effects. people are prefering ayurvedic medicnes. bt yes ofcourse u need to get into a good govt college. bams students hav a brigt future n some states have decided to give equal pay to bams doctors as that of mbbs due to lack of mbbs doctors! bst wishes to all the medical students
ReplyDeleteYou are boring man! If it has good scope why are you are you writing here!
DeleteI hope you people who are criticizing ayurveda..... Have studied ayurpathy....not the genuine ayurveda......do not think of just two volumes Harrison... medicine.....you can write 100 volumes with just charaka uttarardha......charaka says...any thing which is not in this book can not be found anywhere........just think of it.........it's luckiest thing that ayurveda is not available on Internet... Like modern medicine.... You have sweat out for it......
ReplyDeletePlease please please shut your fuck up!
DeleteThis article is very biased.
ReplyDeleteB.A.M.S is very preferable option in India.Job opportunities are not really a problem if you are dedicated to your subject.Your frustration is a result of a combination of your son's unfortunate and repeated failures in not knowing the sanskrit language and not getting enrolled in M.D. (AY) with the preferred subject.
As for the payscale,it depends on how much people trust you and how much you impress them.It must be in your skill to convince patients of your treatment that it will take time but will not give you any side effects.If you lack this skill,you lack the potential to make money (this is why your son failed at his attempt to a clinic)
We have few people earning lots of money and many unemployed people in this field.But so is the case for engineering and a lot of other branches including even cloth bussiness (it could have been a loss as easily).
However a few points for students who wish to take B.A.M.S are
1.You are recognized as a doctor equivalent to M.B.B.S in India but your degree is not recognized in most of the other countries where you will be called a person who has not even graduated (with just 10+2 level education).
2.Job opportunities are present in both government and private sector bit both of them are limited and your starting salary will not be so gratifying.
3.If you go for higher education,you will have to get an government seat or you will end up shelling out a huge load of money for a private college.
4.There are people who prefer ayurveda.But ypu must know that still a hige amount of people prefer allopathy and may come to you as an second opinion.So you get your patients with the trust they put in your skill (which you must have,which in turn is impossible if you are not dedicated to the course.
4.Poeple lose faith in B.A.M.S course during their first year as they selected it just because they were not selected in M.B.B.S course.
5.You must get a good grip on sanskrit as it is the life and soul of this course.
Be dedicated students.There is nothing that will stop you getting success if you work hard,smart and if you love what you do.The subject never lets you down (the case is always reversed).
Seems your employment is dependent on this bullshit so called science! You are biased and you are boring!
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Ayurvedic thinking makes a person Hijada! Stay away from this thinking otherwise you will lose your balls if you have any.
ReplyDeleteAyurveda is a form of child abuse. Do not put your son or daughter in it willingly. They will curse you for your lifetime if you will teach them Ayurved. Ask them to beg on road by having a katora in hand if you cannot find anything else for them to do but for gods sake dont do child abuse by putting them in illogical Ayurveda with kills all the logical thinking.
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ReplyDeleteI am a bams first year student . I thought it will be fun studying this course but when I saw the books first time it's all about the history . I get frustrated knowing I have to study the history of medicine and about the people who start the study about ayurveda and that too in Sanskrit .
ReplyDeleteIt is good for those students who can believe that our body is made up of air , water and fire. According to me it is made of cells( structural and functional unit of life).
I don't want to continue this reading useless data for 5 and more years.
I want to do government job I will get good salary and don't have to waste years for it.
I would better do MBBS than doing bams.
Bams is all about the past when the science was not developed. But now we have all the equipments, knowledge about our every part of our body.
Ayurveda is not needed anymore.
It should be banned in India too as they have banned it in Europe.
If you are sincerely thinking to learn ayurveda,no one can disturbing your private practice of ayurveda.If you are looking for to select another stream or faculty,ayurveda is the best for ANCHOR-NEWS READER-LYRICS WRITING-AUTHOR-STORY AND SCREEN PLAY WRITER-YOGA-MUSIC-VOCABILITY TEACHER-INDIAN GRAMMAR-PHYSIO THERAPY-CHILDREN'S ANCIENT SCHOOL-PHARMACY-etc.This is note Joke , but today i'm music director of regional films-hindi films,and much more doing music related activities due to ayurveda.Ayurveda is too good for who don't want to practice in Ayurveda.Ayurveda gives you stage to perform your hidden arts.If you think that we spoiling the seat of ayurveda,it's wrong.
ReplyDeleteNow turn to Govt.,Text book,faculties, etc problems was connected with ayurveda since many years,and will be continued.Many of BAMS Students like me has developed another business and running successfully.There are much more to learn in ayurveda.Many MLA and SANSAD SABHYA bourn and learn from ayurveda.Chanakya's basic principle of politics is one of subjected chapter of Ayurveda.
So how can Ayurveda is bad?
I really do not know wat the author is exactly trying to project. Yes BAMS course is not an easy piece of cake and spending a life in it is still tough. Me being an Ayurveda doctor have experienced that Ayurveda is an extra ordinary science being handled my a majority of ordinary people. Regarding the scientific authority mentioned by the author, I wud like to remind him about d recent study conducted n proved dat sperm cells could b isolated from bone marrow but is d basic thing v learn in our first year.... This is just one example. People who really want to excell in this field need to completely word much much hard and the result is surely sweet enough....
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I want to know whether in exams can i write slokas of astangh hrudaya in english
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ReplyDeleteThe syllabus of BAMS is not scientific hence many countries do not consider us even as a science graduate. You will come to dead end of your career if you do BAMS or you will have to start again from 12th standard if you want to do something scientific.
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ReplyDeleteThere is no system in ayurveda so anyone gets passed through exams. There are no experts so everyone considers themselves as expert.
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